Of course, we tend to believe science when they tell us something.

I don’t really have a dog in that fight.

My Bible tells me that God created the earth in 7 days.

I do believe that God did create the earth and everything in it.

How long it really took Him and how He went about doing it, does not (for me) create a problem or contradiction with His story.

I really have no problem with science. But I realize the limitations of science.

My pastor says, and I agree with him, that science just thinks God’s thoughts after Him.

Lots of good and productive (sometimes destructive) info. with science…but no clue as to meaning.

That’s where the Bible comes in to clear it up for us.

Thanks, Matt!

Cheers,

I believe the most damning parts of the exposed e-mails was two fold.

Raw data was manipulated to match up to a political agenda. And efforts were clearly made to exclude other scientists (who disagreed) from the process.

The pro-warmer’s agenda is all about control.

The other day, I had to drive to 4 different places to get some newer type light bulb that was installed in my Mom’s bathroom. This is one small result of people telling me what light bulbs I can buy.

I also had to order light bulbs out of state (online) for my church because California outlawed the type we had in there.

We will be told what kind of cars to buy, how much to drive or fly, we will be told (or forced) to have the temps in our homes at certain levels.

People will be going through our trash, looking to ‘catch us’ being un-green.

All because of some ridiculous, unproven theory.

Many scientists and historians believe that life on earth would be much better, if we really did warm. In the past, civilizations thrived in times of warmer temps. And the earth actully does green-up as it gets warmer.

So what in the world are doing all this for?

Power, control, and money. Al Gore and co. are making millions of of this exercise in futility.

If they are making a bundle and consolidating power…then how futile is it?

Matt, I just value freedom, and honesty, and I have seen what happens when governments gain too much power.

Why should it bother me anymore than the people who happen to be affected personally?

Here’s a great short youtube that explains the “hockey stick(s)” as viewed from ice core samples:

What, in your opinion, was the most damning part of the hacked emails?

And what, in your opinion, are the biggest threats to your freedom and economy, based on the ‘pro-warmers’ getting their way?

I’m interested to hear your take on these issues.

PS. it makes you sound like a bit of an ideologue yourself when you refer to ‘the Left’ in such a blanket, broad-brush fashion. Not saying you are one, but that’s what it sounds like.

Cheers,

“snow in Australia’s Summer”

Nothing about that bothers you, eh?

I’m pretty sure the latest stance on Climate Change is that the effect of global warming will be to cause more (and more intense) dramatic changes in the climate.

Remember I mentioned before about the Gulf Stream? World heats up –> polar ice melts –> Gulf Stream disrupted –> UK loses a lot of its warmth –> average temperature in the UK goes down.
It may be counter-intuitive, but that doesn’t make it wrong automatically.

Cheers,

Glad to know my interaction here has been fruitful.

“I don’t believe there is a God but you do. If there is, can you be certain He hasn’t sent me with a boat to rescue you from your ignorance?
I’m not saying you’re stupid, but you are lacking information.”

You know, Craig. I’ve not heard the particular parable you mentioned. But it would most likely be a reference to the final judgment we all face. We come into this world with nothing and we will leave with nothing. Every physical thing (regardless of it’s condition) which we worked for in this life is left behind when the spirit departs from the body.
This life is like a grain threshing floor where God removes the usable “wheat” (His people) from it’s chaff so that we are prepared for eternity with Him. And He gives everyone an opportunity to be broken from the stubborn pride (attitude that we don’t need God) we all have inherited from Adam (not oldAdam here )

When we have nothing left to distract us, we will be forced to face God alone, as individuals. To be left standing on the roof of my ruined house, saying it’s God’s fault that I’m going to die when He gave me nature itself to wonder over, inspired Scripture, His Son and the changed lives of many whom I encountered in this life is not going to impress Him in a plea for leniency.

Even if I believe that God exists (the demons do but want to do their own thing anyway) but am unwilling to be humbled before Him (accept that He is Supreme in authority and I am helpless without Him) in this life, I’m lost.

Because of Adam’s sin, all of humanity is doomed by default. We will all have to face God, whether we choose in this life to believe it.

Jesus is God Himself who came to live, die and resurrect from the dead in order that, through placing our trust in Him, we can have hope that our life won’t end in destruction when we leave this existence. He came to save us from our own attempts at being god and the punishment that is due to those who choose to side with the angelic rebellion the Bible mentions. Jesus has offered to cover us before the judgment seat of God so that we are not destroyed when that happens.

I don’t doubt for a second that you are very intelligent. For some reason, really smart people can be especially resistant to the concept that God exists, that we exist only because He made and sustains all of creation and that we are accountable as citizens of His creation.

OldAdam may well take a lesson or two away from your interaction. But…….Are you dead certain God didn’t lead you here to give you a chance to meet Him in *His* rescue boat?

These scientists just do not know enough to call for the kinds of changes they are calling for.

Right after Hurricane Katrina, the pro-warmer scientists and politicians were saying that we would see more drastic and dealy hurricanes.

They were wrong about that also, but did you hear any apologies? Of course not.

Al Gore said (a few days ago) that the earth’d internal temperature was “a couple of million degrees”.

He said that the polar ice cap “already melted 40%”.

Do you really expect that people with common sense ought take this man and what he believes seriously?

I don’t think you are stupid, either.

Just brainwashed.

The mere fact that those in disagreement are called “deniers” (a term used by pro forces to somehow relate people who do not believe in, or are not sure about man made “global warming” to Holocaust deniers) shows how much sincerity there is in an open and honest debate.

The distortions and attempts to cook the books on the data are at issue here and should be.

The reporters questions, in light of the facts (the e-mails), and the severity of the proposed changes to global economies and challenges to people’s freedoms, certainly were not out of line.

But the Left hates dissent, and will (as the video clearly shows) stiffle it at every opportunity.